Heroes Season 3 Episode 12 “Our Father” Review Pt.1 of 4; Sylar Kills for the Lulz!
REMINDER this is the 1st Review of “Our Father.” Read the next parts here:
Alright you gals/guys! As usual today is December 8th, 2008. And that means Heroes Season 3 Episode 12 “Our Father” has just finished airing. So here is the weekly commentary, review, and analysis for this week’s Heroes!
On this week’s Heroes Episode which is titled “Our Father,” reflects one of the key aspect of this episode’s plot points. I’m thinking the writers wanted to tie-in the fact that Sylar is now doing his Season 1 thing again and going out to eat Brains for no friggin’ apparent reasons. Oh wait, that’s right, there is a reason, and that reason is that Arthur been pulling the strings with Sylar, who apparently isn’t Sylar’s real father, duh. This is so maddening, not just two episodes ago did Heroes revealed that Sylar’s power is deeper then cutting heads up. But, no, Sylar refuses to follow with the fact that he has the ability to take a person’s power with out the absurd need of chopping someone’s dome up. This really bothers the snot out of me, what was the point of showing future Gabriel, the nice Sylar, and his son. And what the crap was the point of having Sylar slice Elle up. We all know he already had her powers, kind of a waste to eat her brains and lose some nice booty-buddy over some insignificant family issues. And Elle will be the best booty-buddy Sylar will ever have… The whole Bonnie and Clyde taking over the world thing has died and burned, and I for one will miss it, slightly. Along with Sylar’s ordeal, we also have Peter struggling to find his purpose and usefulness again. Unfortunately for Peter, being useful involves killing and exacting revenge on his overpowered father. Then Finally, we have Mr. Nathan who wants to be a puppet, by not being a puppet. Yea I know what your thinking, it’s killing my brain too.
So in the beginning of tonight’s Heroes we are taken back to where last week’s episode ended, where Hiro and Claire are witnessing the moment where Noah is given Claire as the assignment. In these scenes, I really enjoyed the pairing of Claire and Hiro, this would actually be the first time these two characters met one another. Personally, I felt there were many great moments shared between the two characters. I loved the concept of a (mentally) ten year old Hiro chatting it up with Claire in Japanese (ah, the hilarity that comes with language barriers). It’s cool to see the dynamic that is sparked when Hiro and Claire do their thing, it makes me hope that their pairing is brought back together in the future Heroes episodes. In my opinion, this would be a total delight.
In these scenes after Claire and Hiro watches as Noah receives baby Claire, we find that Hiro hears his mother’s voice and chooses to follow it toward her, while Claire follows along. And who would of known? As we get the first glimpse of Hiro’s mother, only one thing springs to mind, and it’s about how amazingly hot Hiro’s mother is! Straight MILF. But, jokes aside, we catch Hiro’s father (Sulu AKA George Takei AKA that Japanese dude with the really low voice) discussing to Hiro’s mother (Super fine lady!) about the arrangement to give the catalysts to baby Claire. Well, it’s Hiro’s father that wants to do this, while Hiro’s mother rather the catalyst be moved to Hiro. After all this chit-chat happens Hiro and Claire part ways and plans to regroup at the same location. Following this scene, Hiro actually bumps into his pops, but unknowingly, Mr. Sulu mistaken Hiro for a cook. Now here is where many issues begin to become apparent. With the rules of Time Travel, there are such thing as the “butterfly effect,” where even the killing of a butterfly can warp and distort the future immensely. So, I’m thinking since Mr. Sulu inadvertently bumped into Hiro, this should be the end of the friggin’ world ten times over. But it’s not, obviously. The end of the world is for next season, as always. And what about that vow that Hiro gave at the beginning of this season, regarding about NOT to travel back to the past again? Oh wait, that’s right, Hiro made that vow pre-losing his flippin’ mind.
Moving on to the next scenes, we find Sylar pouring oil all over Elle right after the controversial head slicing. And then he, ironically, uses his electric powers that he gained from Elle pre-head cuttin’ and light Elle’s body up. Now I’m dead sure she ain’t coming back. Oh wait that’s right, unless some one wants to do some time traveling! The writers are nuts. I just don’t understand the need to build a relationship between Elle and Sylar (which technically lasted for 2-3 episodes…), only to have Sylar go “Season 1” on her booty and eat her brains. What a waste of a perfectly good lover, and that’s all I’m going to say about that. At least for Sylar, he got some lovin’ unlike *ahem* our poor fuglified Suresh and Mr. Oblivious Matt Parkman.
Continuing onward, Sylar is now moving out to find out the truth about whether Arthur or the whole entire Petrelli family is really his family or not. And the way for him to figure this out is by visiting a short-lived hero, Sue Landers. Honestly, at first I was like WTF at the idea of the writers making Sylar a good guy… then another WTF for making Sylar a Petrelli, and now once again with withdrawing Sylar from being either a good guy or a flippin’ Petrelli. I was actually hoping to see more action between Peter and Sylar, and less of Nathan and Peter… Since that got really stupid, as the plot between them are always a egocentric one (Who has the bigger ball-sack). I’m going to take a wild guess that both Nathan and Peter gets along again, only to split back apart due to the reemerging discussion about who has the bigger ball-sack that never cease to end.
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PART 2 OF “OUR FATHER” REVIEW:
Heroes s3 e12 “Our Father” Review Pt.2; Haitian Finally Put to Good Use!
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Hey i can’t wait for your next review part for this episode! I enjoyed reading this one.
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About 2/3 of the way thru your review, you wrote the following
“Now here is where I actually begin to develop a problem with all this. ” There’s no reason for us to actually go into the many sillynesses of that statement’s apparent logical fallacies, and I like your overall tone with your review, but let’s consider this Time travel thing. Based on this last episode, we can conclude that only the possibly-dead Arthur can time travel unless someone takes his powers, correct? Therefore Arthur can’t be dead, correct? One more note, there seems to be some confusion out there regarding the Catalyst and something some people refer to as ‘the Light.’ Can anyone explain how the Light is somehow different from the Catalyst?
“Barnje07″ Lol I see what your saying about what i said. Yea it is kind of illogical since the show itself should be known to create these problems!
And on Arthur being dead… I’m pretty sure he’s dead. To say he is not dead, would be to say Future Peter is not dead, which apparently he is. The only way I see Arthur dropping back again is if he painted the future and acknowledge that Sylar would kill him and that his past self w/ the power to time travel taken from Peter, would intervene in the present where Heroes is taking place now.
And on the Catalyst, light comment, I will have to get back to you on that.
Hopefully someone else that catch your comment will respond. I am currently working on the final part of this review.
Thanks again for dropping by bro, I really do appreciate it!
OK i honestly hate critics like you. I do not like that you can’t get over the fact Elle is gone. Can you not accept the face Elle died? I know it has probably ended your fantasy’s but seriously get over it. All year long critics like you have been complaining no one ever dies, but when someone does..look who’s crying now! Get over your rude and pointless logic in this episode, if you cannot clearly comprehend why or how something is done, you honestly don’t need to be writing reviews for TV shows. Just because the show doesn’t produce what you want does not mean you can just critique it so harshly, why don’t you go do a better job. Besides the writers that wrote this are fired now, so we won’t see story changes until next season. Now get over yourself and grow a pair, thanks.
FYI-Sylar killed elle due to his hunger of wanting to know the truth about his parents. NOT for no reason. Everything in this season was for a reason, and it was awesome. This season is close to being as good as the first.
“KING” Lol bro, this is MY commentary, and if you’ve read my past reviews you will understand I have nothing against the show. Most of my writings are borderline comedic and satirical.
But, besides that, calm down bro. I do this to entertain the readers. So I’m definitely not stopping. And I Promise I’ll mention Elle for as long as I want :].
Also even if Sylar had his hunger, which he can control. Why doesn’t Sylar expand on his newly found powers of receiving powers through, I don’t know, Empathy. Or whatever that mess the writers wrote up a few episodes ago.
Also If I didn’t enjoy Heroes even with it fault why would I even write a review over it? Lol Anyways, I hope to see you back for future chats!
geez, KING, with a name like that you’d figure you wouldn’t get so worked up and emotional. Maybe you should re-conjugate your moniker to the feminine.
I’ve spent several minutes today accidentally reading ridiculous postings on message boards about Heroes, and there’s a general agreement that the show is inescapably contrived beyond the illusions of the first season. Personally, I’m watching it now partly for laughs, but also because it has a fantasy appeal, like any well-shot sci-fi show.
But there’s no reason to get offended by the truth, sir or ma’am, This gentleman’s review is quite good, and he seems able to point out the glaring flaws while still clearly enjoying the show.
Unless you’re a teenager, KING, you might find more enjoyment by acknowledging the contrivances of this ridiculous show and using that as an avenue toward increased understanding of literary machinations, techniques and concepts, such as the ‘reader’s willing suspension of disbelief,’ an ability which this show has begun to lose. Overall, I believe you’ll grow to better appreciate quality writing, character development and entertainment, using this time-tested approach.
Well, now you’ve done it! my fingers are exhausted!
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“barnje07″ thanks man for the backup.
Once again… WTF is goin on here!
somebody get me up to speed…
“Captain Price” You probably need to watch the show, buddy. Lol
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HEROES IS NOT A RIDICULOUS SHOW!
barnje07’s just one of those million bashers who so think that this show has gone beyond redemption. but no. episode 12 just proved that. with a bang. everything in OUR FATHER was so connected, so smooth-paced that i thought i’ve enjoyed it better than any of the episodes of the first season (save for five years gone anyway).
so first let me clarify some points about your review:
1) Mrs. Bennet’s name is Sandra. Don’t forget that next time. You’re a critic, for God’s sakes.
2) i’m guessing that there has been no rigid guidelines to follow when it comes to time-traveling. and time-traveling on heroes has always been different if you compare it with other time-warp stories. so please. critic time-traveling in the context of heroes, and heroes alone. because if you compare it with other shows or movies you’ll just get utterly disappointed. do you get my point?
3) no, you don’t get extra strength when you have super speed, it’s just that things are way lighter when they travel fast. IT’S NOT A MAGICAL ATTRIBUTE, like you assume it, please do your own share of research.
4) chubby man didn’t technically see daphne running fast, he just got shocked when he saw her in front of him.
5) i guess claire is still the catalyst up til now. there’s no actual plot hole here. and NO, she wouldn’t spontaneously disappear, because claire has her spontaneous regeneration already even without the catalyst. see, the catalyst did not give her abilities, she already had them the day she was born. claire already survived a fire long before she was given to noah by kaito.
6) ARTHUR HAD CLAIRVOYANT POWERS FROM PETER!! HOW COULD YOU EVER MISS THIS? peter met molly in kirby plaza, though peter never knew he already had the power. and we have always seen arthur use his absorbed powers so efficiently, so there is reason to believe that he use clairvoyance. or rather, HE CERTAINLY USED CLAIRVOYANCE.
i hope i made everything clear about that. XD
“lewey” 1st and foremost, Thanks for dropping by.
1) Thanks, I shall remember it next time ;].
2) Actually I can compare it out of heroes context… Because In “Season 1″ Time -Traveling actually had a good rigid guideline where for example anything that was seen from or read from the Mendez’s Comics were SURE to happen, GUARANTEED to occur. But for the past 2 Seasons this has all been washed down the drain. This is the key component to first season that MADE the series. Viewers watched because they wanted to see how the story would unfold even when they KNEW DESTRUCTION was GUARANTEED to occur. Nowadays, this entire element is sent out the window. Anything foreseen in the future can be changed, and quite frequently that this happens. And the disadvantages of this is that the Viewers KNOWS this. So all impact of viewing the future is long gone.
3) Lol I’m still sticking with my idea about this. You can stick with your own, for that matter. But your argument does not merit me to change my mind. How bout you show me some hard proof next time?
4)Err Yea, that’s subjective to each individual’s viewing experience then. In my opinion, I’m pretty sure he didn’t just assume a chick that was in a store a few sec before while he was 2 blocks away on his BIKE from her original location. Then surprisingly she’s in front of him…. Yea Lets just assume he didn’t catch her running fast… or ever gave thought as to how she appeared in front of him in the first place.
5) Well that’s not what I meant by saying she would disappear due to her regeneration powers. I’m talking about the REASON she went to the past in the first place was so that she could avoid getting her baby self the catalyst. If this was so, this would change the future so that the newly developed future, due to these events would produce a Claire that would have no need to travel back in time, assuming everything was perfectly fine and all according to plan. So that would be the reason Claire would spontaneously Disappear… But I knew this wasn’t going to happen, this is friggin’ Heroes!
6) What are you talking about? I know Arthur has his little Pre-cog technique? I wrote an entire paragraph about that lol. My argument was that we would not see the last of Arthur, if we assumed he used his Clairvoyance to foresee what Sylar would do. Which would mean, and I’m just theorizing, that he probably set up something with one of his self to change up the past so that he comes back, or something. This is where time traveling, and all that mumbo-jumbo, gets mind numbing… Way, way to complicated.
I don’t think any of this will change your opinions on the questions you asked, but I do enjoy your arguments. If you have more, throw them all out here!
I urge other readers to discuss these issues too! I would love to hear your argument. Thanks “Lewey” for being constructive.
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haha, you’re welcome. i always read heroes reviews, i google them up, and i found yours for this episode. do you read jason chamberlain’s reviews?
hmm.. okay, i give you number 2, because i’m also sort of confused about the time-traveling plotline. sometimes it’s like you don’t change everything because it already happened, sometimes it changes everything, sometimes it changes a little bit. that’s always the way with heroes with time traveling. so i, as an avid, find reasons to make this time warping credible still.. (and from the looks of it, time traveling as an element will be gone in future volumes, since they erased all time-traveling abilities – in a flash- in this episode alone)
for number 3, read this:
http://www.weburbia.com/physics/mass.html
hmm maybe i’ll just answer some of the questions later on, i’ve got things to do.. XD
*as an avid fan
sorry for the typo
hahaha, i just noticed, please stop putting quotation marks on my name, that simply means you perceive it as foreign-like. well it does sound foreign, but anyway
4) maybe he just didn’t mind any of it at all, seeing that above all he’s hurt? and seeing that a group of people would go at lengths just to get simple sketches of Isaac’s, he became too afraid to ask “who the heck are these guys”?
5) hmm, you definitely have a point but i still don’t give this up as a plot hole.. yet. because first of all, the only person that will make all sense to this is kaito.. if kaito knew in the first place that the “light” was inside hiro, and that it was stolen by arthur, then everything will become clearer. this would also imply that claire is not the catalyst in the first place, but hiro. and that going back in time they didn’t change anything at all, but in truth, it was their destiny to go back in time and fetch the catalyst.
6) hehe. do you even know what clairvoyance is?
Clairvoyance – is the ability to discern people who are not in the observer’s presence. (heroeswiki)
do you remember molly from seasons 1 and 2? she used this ability, to locate people anywhere around the world. unknown to peter, he has absorbed the ability, having been in close proximity with molly at the end of season 1. because he didn’t know he had one, he didn’t use clairvoyance. and then we all know what happens: arthur absorbed all of peter’s abilities. now arthur’s power absorption works in a completely different way than that of peter’s: even without remembering the benefactor and connecting with that person through empathy, arthur can use the specific ability. also he is aware of every ability he has (seeing that he has used time travel, teleportation, and telekinesis all without prior knowledge). and so arthur must have used clairvoyance when he showed up to hiro and claire in the past. now that begs the question, could it possibly locate people in a different time line? now that’s something i couldn’t possibly answer. but i could only speculate that arthur traveled back to that timeline to get the catalyst himself, but seeing that hiro has already gone there first, he took it from him.
about arthur being dead, nah, arthur’s dead. a horde of fanboys and fangirls will surely rally across the nbc offices if he comes back alive.
7) i have read some comment about why sylar didn’t kill the haitian and take his ability. well it’s plain and simple: arthur was already dead, and the haitian could have simply focused his nullifying power on sylar. and sylar is definitely weaker than arthur, and knowing that he could be killed by peter with a gun, he bluffs by saying “i will not kill you peter, because you don’t have what i want blah blah blah” and safely walks.
i hope i’ve made myself clearer. XD
thanks a lot “LOYALKNG” (haha)
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two things:
1) if Daphne doesn’t have super strength, especially in her arms, how in the hell did she slow down her traveling companions? now THAT’s impossible. How are you gonna rationalize THAT point? invisible parachutes?, sticky shoes? maybe they opened their mouths to catch the air to slow them down! don’t give me that “it’s not a ridiculous show” crap, just accept that it IS a ridiculous show, and enjoy it for that, I’m not being critical in any bad way, I’m just helping some of you with your apparent misunderstandings regarding legitimate science.
2) I’d still like to know what the difference is supposed to be between the Catalyst and the light, and if someone can copy the Catalyst into a formula, then shouldn’t there also be multiple copies of ‘the Light’
Lewey, on the quotation it was just a way for me to signified I was talking to you lol. But if it bothers you that much I will drop it.
And by no means was I trying to treat you like a foreign object lol. So lets get on to the discussion, brother!
On the John Chamberlain’s review you asked about, I never read any of his reviews, although I did a quick google to find out who he is and checked his latest review though.
2) I doubt time traveling will be gone, but it would help the show so much to drop it… But, in my opinion, should of delved deeper in the time-traveling near the climax of the series’ life. Now dropping it, it would be hard to write a plot that held such feeling of danger to the Earth’s destruction… Heroes relied too much of it’s writing on time-traveling.. and ultimately is falling out due to this.
4) Lol this will just have to be our different perspective. Which is nothing wrong of course. That’s the beauty of it, i guess.
5) Lets hope this gets cleared up on the next Episode. But your theory is very plausible, that might just happen. If so that would clear up that plot-hole.
6) My bad, I was mistaking Clairvoyance with Precognition.
Let’s just hope Arthur stays dead lol.
7) that’s kind of far fetched, but it could happen haha.
Thanks, palo lewey.
err… Something just occurred to me. If Arthur used Clairvoyance to locate Hiro in the past… Assuming he did that. WHY THE HECK Didn’t HE USE IT TO TRACK CLAIRE????? I mean HE KNEW SHE HAD IT…
Now this is driving me nuts.
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